Monthly Archives: February 2014

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Stop Posting Made Up Quotes – Mark Twain

Stop posting made up quotes – Mark Twain.

or

You can’t believe everything you read on the internet – Abraham Lincoln

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I love quotes, I have books of them. Long involved ones; short, pithy ones; funny ones; old ones; I love quotes.

 

I find it easy to lose an hour or so just going from one to the next. The problem with quotes is that they are not in context and can be easily misunderstood.

 

For example-

 

This is a quote the British Homeopathic Association used in its advertising.

 

“There is some evidence that homeopathic treatments are more effective than placebo”

 

But the House of Commons study on the practises of advertising notes the full quote:

 

“There is some evidence that homeopathic treatments are more effective than placebo however, the strength of this evidence is low because of the low methodological quality of the trials. Studies of high methodological quality were more likely to be negative than the lower quality studies.”

 

That paints a slightly different picture than the rosy one the British Homeopathic Association wants us to see. There are plenty of examples of this selective quoting –

 

A show in London used the tag line –

 

‘energy, razzmatazz and technical wizardry’

 

When the full quote in the Times was –

 

“I couldn’t help feeling that, for all the energy, razzmatazz and technical wizardry, the audience had been shortchanged”

 

Again very different from the ‘real’ quote.

 

Look at the quotes below –

 

“Twitter is a great tool for social change” – Mother Teresa

 

“Play it again, Sam” – from Casablanca

 

“Elementary, my dear Watson” – Sherlock Holmes

 

“Hate the sin: love the sinner” – Jesus Christ

 

“My philosophy? I’m always right and you are wrong.” – Oscar Wilde

 

Which is your favourite?

Which ones had you heard before?

Did you know that the people listed never said these things?

 

These are all misquotes or false quotes. Holmes, in all the books, never says  “Elementary, my dear Watson”; it’s “Play it, Sam”, not “Play it again, Sam”; Oscar Wilde, Mother Teresa or Jesus Christ ever said those things.

It’s so easy to make up quotes, easier than misquoting because you can get them to say whatever you like.

 

“Melbourne Welsh Church is the best church is the world” – Barak Obama.

 

See? I doubt the President of the U.S. has ever heard of the Welsh Church and even if he had I doubt he say we’re the best church in the world. (What am I saying? Of course he would, I’ve seen a quote saying he did!)

 

There are preachers and churches who take the words of Jesus and do all the things to them I’ve noted here. Misquote, false quote, selectively quote and they don’t represent what Christ really says

 

What I’m trying to say with all this is if it isn’t in the Bible then Jesus didn’t say it. With so many Bible websites (www.biblegateway.com) its easy to see check what Jesus really said and, just as importantly, in what context he said it. It may not stop the random misquoting of Jesus but at least you will know exactly what J.C. said. Check and question what you’re told. If they are preaching the truth they will have no problem with questions.

 

SO DO IT!

 

Ask questions. Don’t blindly take a minister’s word for something – check it, question it – question everything. PLEASE.

 

(and tell them to stop posting made up quotes.)

 

 


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Stop Posting Made Up Quotes – Mark Twain

Stop posting made up quotes – Mark Twain.

or

You can’t believe everything you read on the internet – Abraham Lincoln

 

I love quotes, I have books of them. Long involved ones; short, pithy ones; funny ones; old ones; I love quotes.

 

I find it easy to lose an hour or so just going from one to the next. The problem with quotes is that they are not in context and can be easily misunderstood.

 

For example-

 

This is a quote the British Homeopathic Association used in its advertising.

 

“There is some evidence that homeopathic treatments are more effective than placebo”

 

But the House of Commons study on the practises of advertising notes the full quote:

 

“There is some evidence that homeopathic treatments are more effective than placebo however, the strength of this evidence is low because of the low methodological quality of the trials. Studies of high methodological quality were more likely to be negative than the lower quality studies.”

 

That paints a slightly different picture than the rosy one the British Homeopathic Association wants us to see. There are plenty of examples of this selective quoting –

 

A show in London used the tag line –

 

‘energy, razzmatazz and technical wizardry’

 

When the full quote in the Times was –

 

“I couldn’t help feeling that, for all the energy, razzmatazz and technical wizardry, the audience had been shortchanged”

 

Again very different from the ‘real’ quote.

 

Look at the quotes below –

 

“Twitter is a great tool for social change” – Mother Teresa

 

“Play it again, Sam” – from Casablanca

 

“Elementary, my dear Watson” – Sherlock Holmes

 

“Hate the sin: love the sinner” – Jesus Christ

 

“My philosophy? I’m always right and you are wrong.” – Oscar Wilde

 

Which is your favourite?

Which ones had you heard before?

Did you know that the people listed never said these things?

 

These are all misquotes or false quotes. Holmes, in all the books, never says  “Elementary, my dear Watson”; it’s “Play it, Sam”, not “Play it again, Sam”; Oscar Wilde, Mother Teresa or Jesus Christ ever said those things.

It’s so easy to make up quotes, easier than misquoting because you can get them to say whatever you like.

 

“Melbourne Welsh Church is the best church is the world” – Barak Obama.

 

See? I doubt the President of the U.S. has ever heard of the Welsh Church and even if he had I doubt he say we’re the best church in the world. (What am I saying? Of course he would, I’ve seen a quote saying he did!)

 

There are preachers and churches who take the words of Jesus and do all the things to them I’ve noted here. Misquote, false quote, selectively quote and they don’t represent what Christ really says

 

What I’m trying to say with all this is if it isn’t in the Bible then Jesus didn’t say it. With so many Bible websites (www.biblegateway.com) its easy to see check what Jesus really said and, just as importantly, in what context he said it. It may not stop the random misquoting of Jesus but at least you will know exactly what J.C. said. Check and question what you’re told. If they are preaching the truth they will have no problem with questions.

 

SO DO IT!

 

Ask questions. Don’t blindly take a minister’s word for something – check it, question it – question everything. PLEASE.

 

(and tell them to stop posting made up quotes.)

 

 


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Have you found Jesus?

Have you seen Jesus?

 

Not long ago I saw this cartoon and, predictably, it made me laugh. (I don’t know who drew it but the image belongs to them and we will remove it if requested, by the artist!!!)

 

Have you seen Jesus?

But it also made me think. Why are we so sure we know who Jesus is and what he would do in any given situation? We look at Jesus with the eyes of people who know the whole story. We see the patterns in his life and ministry because we can look back on the whole thing. To those living with him, in 1st century Palestine, Jesus was nothing if not unpredictable.

 

Think of that time he threw the money changers out of the Temple. No one saw that coming. Nowhere else do we see this raging Jesus. He is confronted with lying Pharisees, crowds stoning women, great numbers of silly people who forgot their food for the day; lots of blood pressure raising situations. Not once does he lose his rag – that’s what would have made the Temple Tanty so difficult to understand.

 

He also went to people that no one else had any time for – tax collectors (they were seen as below the lowest of the low), lepers (‘dirty’ people with bits hanging off them), prostitutes (frowned upon by ‘polite’ society), random sinners (as judged by the religious folk of the day – not nice people at all (do I mean the religious folk or the sinners? You take a guess)).

 

This Jesus chap was radical and unpredictable, sorry that should read this Jesus chap IS radical and unpredictable.

 

So, why do we, the people of the Church, think we’ve worked him out? We’ve been arguing about it for 2000 years. Jesus would do this say one group, he would do no such thing says another. Jesus, even today, is a very controversial and radical figure. But there are things that almost everyone sees.

 

Churches, by and large, agree that one constant Jesus does show is love. But, rather predictably, Christians can’t seem to agree on how that love is displayed and to whom. There are churches that say you MUST be white to share in the love of a brown skinned Middle Eastern man (??????), other churches say that you have to have to be male to truly get what J.C. says (even though there were loads of women who followed him and the majority of church goers in Australia today are female). Many churches insist you can’t be gay because Jesus frowns on gay people (even though he never says anything about them, not once, not in any of the 4 Gospels – he has more to say about religious bigots, and he tells them they are wrong!) Riches are a prerequisite for some (even though Jesus told the rich young ruler to give away all he had, work that out????). Still for others it’s the Roman Catholics who are outside the love of Jesus. Think of a group of people and there is a church somewhere that thinks Jesus hates them, and I reckon they are all wrong, but that’s just me.

 

If Jesus were to land in Australia tomorrow which church would he go to first, where would be the first place he would visit? Would he come to the Melbourne Welsh Church? Maybe he would go to one of the nice big cathedrals, or a grand church with lavish decorations. Perhaps he would join in with some evangelicals or fundamentalists who seem to know exactly what he wants. Or at the very least a synagogue?

 

We can never find Jesus where we put him, we left him right here in our little church building, waiting for Sunday and another couple of services of praise. Trouble is he goes off and does his own thing, like he did years ago.

 

I heard that he was seen by a soup van for the homeless, someone else claimed he was with the down and outs under the bridges by the Yarra, one women ridiculously suggested he was with the drug addicts near Smith Street. I heard sightings of him from as far afield as St. Kilda with the transgender folk to the graffiti gangs down the lane ways to some depressed farmer who lost everything in the bush fires.

 

How ridiculous. He’ll be in a coffee shop somewhere nice, having a cake with some nice clergy types before coming back on Sunday to join us. After all we are his type of people. I’m sure I just worry too much.

 


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Have you found Jesus?

 

Not long ago I saw this cartoon and, predictably, it made me laugh. (I don’t know who drew it but the image belongs to them and we will remove it if requested, by the artist!!!)

 

But it also made me think. Why are we so sure we know who Jesus is and what he would do in any given situation? We look at Jesus with the eyes of people who know the whole story. We see the patterns in his life and ministry because we can look back on the whole thing. To those living with him, in 1st century Palestine, Jesus was nothing if not unpredictable.

 

Think of that time he threw the money changers out of the Temple. No one saw that coming. Nowhere else do we see this raging Jesus. He is confronted with lying Pharisees, crowds stoning women, great numbers of silly people who forgot their food for the day; lots of blood pressure raising situations. Not once does he lose his rag – that’s what would have made the Temple Tanty so difficult to understand.

 

He also went to people that no one else had any time for – tax collectors (they were seen as below the lowest of the low), lepers (‘dirty’ people with bits hanging off them), prostitutes (frowned upon by ‘polite’ society), random sinners (as judged by the religious folk of the day – not nice people at all (do I mean the religious folk or the sinners? You take a guess)).

 

This Jesus chap was radical and unpredictable, sorry that should read this Jesus chap IS radical and unpredictable.

 

So, why do we, the people of the Church, think we’ve worked him out? We’ve been arguing about it for 2000 years. Jesus would do this say one group, he would do no such thing says another. Jesus, even today, is a very controversial and radical figure. But there are things that almost everyone sees.

 

Churches, by and large, agree that one constant Jesus does show is love. But, rather predictably, Christians can’t seem to agree on how that love is displayed and to whom. There are churches that say you MUST be white to share in the love of a brown skinned Middle Eastern man (??????), other churches say that you have to have to be male to truly get what J.C. says (even though there were loads of women who followed him and the majority of church goers in Australia today are female). Many churches insist you can’t be gay because Jesus frowns on gay people (even though he never says anything about them, not once, not in any of the 4 Gospels – he has more to say about religious bigots, and he tells them they are wrong!) Riches are a prerequisite for some (even though Jesus told the rich young ruler to give away all he had, work that out????). Still for others it’s the Roman Catholics who are outside the love of Jesus. Think of a group of people and there is a church somewhere that thinks Jesus hates them, and I reckon they are all wrong, but that’s just me.

 

If Jesus were to land in Australia tomorrow which church would he go to first, where would be the first place he would visit? Would he come to the Melbourne Welsh Church? Maybe he would go to one of the nice big cathedrals, or a grand church with lavish decorations. Perhaps he would join in with some evangelicals or fundamentalists who seem to know exactly what he wants. Or at the very least a synagogue?

 

We can never find Jesus where we put him, we left him right here in our little church building, waiting for Sunday and another couple of services of praise. Trouble is he goes off and does his own thing, like he did years ago.

 

I heard that he was seen by a soup van for the homeless, someone else claimed he was with the down and outs under the bridges by the Yarra, one women ridiculously suggested he was with the drug addicts near Smith Street. I heard sightings of him from as far afield as St. Kilda with the transgender folk to the graffiti gangs down the lane ways to some depressed farmer who lost everything in the bush fires.

 

How ridiculous. He’ll be in a coffee shop somewhere nice, having a cake with some nice clergy types before coming back on Sunday to join us. After all we are his type of people. I’m sure I just worry too much.

 


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